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          SB 126-ARCHITECT/ENGINEER REGISTRATION BOARD                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:54:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration  of SENATE  BILL NO.  126 "An  Act relating  to the                                                               
State Board  of Registration for Architects,  Engineers, and Land                                                               
Surveyors;  relating to  architects,  engineers, land  surveyors,                                                               
and landscape architects; and providing for an effective date."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced that his staff will present the bill.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:55:32 PM                                                                                                                    
LAURA  ACHEE,   Staff,  Senator  Jesse  Bjorkman,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska,  introduced SB 126 on  behalf of the                                                               
committee, reading from the following prepared statement:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB 126 was introduced by  the Senate Labor and Commerce                                                                    
     Committee  at  the  request  of   the  State  Board  of                                                                    
     Registration  for   Architects,  Engineers,   and  Land                                                                    
     Surveyors.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     For the most  part, the changes in  this bill modernize                                                                    
     and  cleanup the  Board's statutes.  However there  are                                                                    
     two  sections that  address vague  language which  have                                                                    
     been interpreted in  a way that is  not consistent with                                                                    
     best  operation  of  the  Board  or  of  the  regulated                                                                    
     professions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. ACHEE  deferred to Mr.  Leman for  an explanation of  the two                                                               
material changes this bill makes to  the board and the reason the                                                               
board wanted SB 126 to be introduced.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:56:41 PM                                                                                                                    
LOREN  LEMAN, Former  Lieutenant  Governor,  Board Member,  State                                                               
Board  of  Registration  for   Architects,  Engineers,  and  Land                                                               
Surveyors  (AELS),  Anchorage,   Alaska,  presented  the  sponsor                                                               
statement and  summarized the sectional  analysis for SB  126. He                                                               
reviewed the following sponsor statement:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Senate Bill  126 is legislation requested  by the State                                                                    
     Board  of Registration  for Architects,  Engineers, and                                                                    
     Land  Surveyors (AELS  Board). In  many respects  it is                                                                    
     like a "Revisor's Bill."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     One of its more substantive  changes is to clarify that                                                                    
     an electrical  and a mechanical  engineer may  serve on                                                                    
     the Board  at the same  time. This could be  helpful as                                                                    
     these two  disciplines of  engineering have  the second                                                                    
     and   third   most   registrants   in   Alaska   (civil                                                                    
     engineering   has  the   largest  number).   The  Board                                                                    
     believes this is what the  Legislature intended when it                                                                    
     called out that  one of the 11 seats must  be filled by                                                                    
     a mechanical  or electrical  engineer and  another seat                                                                    
     is  to  be filled  by  another  discipline not  already                                                                    
     represented.  However, the  Department  of Law  advises                                                                    
     that  the   current  language   may  not   allow  this.                                                                    
     Clarifying this will reduce  the potential for conflict                                                                    
     over  eligibility to  serve and  may  better serve  the                                                                    
     professions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Another  change is  to clarify  that  a registrant  who                                                                    
     seals and  signs a document must  do the work or  be in                                                                    
     responsible charge  of it and  the work must be  in the                                                                    
     registrant's  field of  practice.  An  attorney in  the                                                                    
     Department  of Law  recently opined  that  the way  the                                                                    
     sentence is  currently written could be  interpreted as                                                                    
     "or,"  meaning either  condition  alone is  sufficient.                                                                    
     This  is not  how the  professions have  long practiced                                                                    
     this,  nor how  regulations are  written. So  the Board                                                                    
     requests   this  clarification   to  reduce   potential                                                                    
     conflict  between statute  and regulation,  as well  as                                                                    
     guard the professions.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The  bill provides  numerous updates  to the  statutes,                                                                    
     acknowledges   that  documents   are  now   transmitted                                                                    
     electronically,  and adds  limited partnerships  to the                                                                    
     corporate structures  that can be  issued certification                                                                    
     for professional practice.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEMAN summarized the sectional analysis that read as                                                                        
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      SB 126 Ver. A: Architect/Engineer Registration Board                                                                    
                       Sectional Analysis                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1:  Amends AS 08.48.011(c)  to clarify  that an                                                                    
     electrical  engineer  and  a  mechanical  engineer  may                                                                    
     serve  on  the  Board  concurrently.  This  could  help                                                                    
     better  serve   two  of  the  largest   disciplines  of                                                                    
     engineering in Alaska.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:  Amends AS 08.48.021(c)  to lower  from four                                                                    
     to two  years the  time that a  person who  has "termed                                                                    
     out"   must   wait   before   becoming   eligible   for                                                                    
     reappointment to  the Board.  This would be  helpful in                                                                    
     filling vacancies that may be difficult to fill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  3:  Amends  AS   08.48.055(a)  to  change  the                                                                    
     statutory title  of the main staff  person who supports                                                                    
     the  Board to  Executive  Administrator,  an update  to                                                                    
     modernize  the title  and more  accurately reflect  the                                                                    
     scope of duties.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  4:  Amends  AS   08.48.055(b)  to  change  the                                                                    
     statutory  title to  Executive  Administrator and  adds                                                                    
     that the  Board may  delegate reviews and  approvals of                                                                    
     comity  applications.  This  delegation is  already  in                                                                    
     regulation for  certain limited circumstances,  and the                                                                    
     Department  of  Law  has advised  that  the  delegation                                                                    
     needs to be codified in statute.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5: Amends AS 08.48.071(f)  because the Board no                                                                    
     longer administers  the exams. The testing  function is                                                                    
     now   performed   by  national   professional   testing                                                                    
     organizations  at  considerable  cost  savings  to  the                                                                    
     State.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section  6: Amends  AS 08.48.091  because the  Board no                                                                    
     longer administers the exams.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  7: Amends  AS  08.48.101(a)  to add  statutory                                                                    
     authority  for   the  Board  to  provide   guidance  on                                                                    
     overlapping "border  issues" or "gray areas"  among the                                                                    
     design professions  by regulation or policy.  The Board                                                                    
     is  already   providing  this  guidance,   this  change                                                                    
     clarifies the authority in statute.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section  8:   Amends  AS   08.48.111  to   add  limited                                                                    
     partnerships   to   entities   that   may   be   issued                                                                    
     certificates  of  authorization.  The State  of  Alaska                                                                    
     issues  business and  professional licenses  to limited                                                                    
     partnerships.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section   9:  Amends   AS   08.48.121   to  allow   the                                                                    
     investigator to be able to  dismiss a complaint without                                                                    
     having to come to the Board in certain cases.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  10: Amends  AS 08.48.171  to delete  statutory                                                                    
     language regarding  applications for  registration that                                                                    
     is   better  suited   to  and   currently  covered   by                                                                    
     regulation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section  11-  13 Amend  AS  08.48.191(a),(b)  & (d)  to                                                                    
     update language  to provide better  certainty regarding                                                                    
     when conditions for an application  are met, and less a                                                                    
     process  based  on  opinion when  the  Board  registers                                                                    
     architects in Alaska.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 14:  Amends AS 08.48.201(a) to  allow the Board                                                                    
     to set  in regulation specific requirements  for forms,                                                                    
     statements, and references rather than in statute.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 15:  Amends AS 08.48.211 to  modernize statutes                                                                    
     and  delete repetitive  language. Certificates  are now                                                                    
     issued electronically and the  Board no longer places a                                                                    
     physical  seal on  hard copy  certificates. Registrants                                                                    
     are advised they can print  their own certificates from                                                                    
     an electronic file.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 16:  Amends AS  08.48.215(a) to  streamline the                                                                    
     language.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 17:  Amends AS 48.08.221 to  remove duplicative                                                                    
     language and  allow the  Board to  provide requirements                                                                    
     for professional seals in  regulation. Also responds to                                                                    
     a  recent Department  of  Law  opinion about  potential                                                                    
     conflict between  statute and regulation  by clarifying                                                                    
     that work  sealed and  signed by  a registrant  must be                                                                    
     done  by  the  registrant or  under  their  responsible                                                                    
     charge and be in the registrant's field of practice.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section  18:  Amends  AS 08.48.231(a)  to  add  limited                                                                    
     partnerships  and  update  the language  to  allow  for                                                                    
     electronic transmission of documents.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  19  -  28:  Amends AS  08.48.241(a)   (h),  AS                                                                    
     08.48.251,   and  AS   48.08.281(a)   to  add   limited                                                                    
     partnerships.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  29:  Amends  AS 08.48.331(a)  to  add  limited                                                                    
     partnerships and  update the  name for  fire protection                                                                    
     systems to be consistent with industry.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section  30:  Amends  AS 08.48.341(4)  to  add  limited                                                                    
     partnerships.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  31:   Amends  AS  08.48.341(7)  to   make  the                                                                    
     language consistent with industry practice.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section  32: Amends  AS 08.48.341(16)  by revising  the                                                                    
     definition of  landscape architecture to  be consistent                                                                    
     with  the other  professional  definitions and  reflect                                                                    
     language  used within  the profession  to describe  its                                                                    
     work.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  33-36:  Amends  AS  08.48.341(17-19,  22)  to                                                                    
     remove unnecessary language.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section  37: Amends  AS 08.48.341  to add  new language                                                                    
     that provide a definition  for "fire protection system"                                                                    
     that  is  consistent  with the  industry,  and  defines                                                                    
     "limited  partnership"  and  "registrant" as  they  are                                                                    
     used in this section.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  38: Repeals  AS  08.48.061, removing  language                                                                    
     regarding  travel expenses  and appropriations  that is                                                                    
     more   appropriately   covered  elsewhere   in   Alaska                                                                    
     Statutes.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 39: Provides for an immediate effective date.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:06:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN opened public testimony on SB 126. Finding no                                                                    
testifiers, he held SB 126 in committee with public testimony                                                                   
open.                                                                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 126 ver A.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 126
SB 126 Sponsor Statement ver A.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 126
SB 126 Sectional Analysis ver A.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 126
SB 73 Sectional Analysis ver S 03.9.2023.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 73
SB 73 Sponsor Statement ver S.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 73
SB 73 Fiscal Note DCCED-CBPL-04.07.23.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 73
SB 73 Supporting Testimony-Received by the Committee through 04.11.23.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 73
SB 73 Supporting Testimony-Received by the Committee as of 04.10.23.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 73
SB 73 ver S.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 73
SB 73 Opposing Testimony-Received by sponsor as of 04.10.23.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 73
SB 73 Opposing Testimony-Received by the Committee as of 04.10.23.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 73
SB 73 Opposing Testimony-Received by the Committee through 04.11.23.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 73
SB 73 Supporting Testimony-Received by sponsor as of 04.10.23.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 73
SB 94 Support Testimony-Letter_ ANTHC 04.05.23.pdf SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 94
SB 73 Supporting Documment-USACE Proposal Request.pdf SFIN 3/25/2024 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 73